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[S3/E32] The Pilsner Showdown

Season 3, Episode 32 – This week, we’re drinking a brewer’s dozen of pilsner and ranking them, like you do.

Another 4B Showdown coming at you, this time it’s the Pilsner Showdown 2.0. You might be asking yourself – what happened to the pilsner showdown 1.0? Well we might be asking you to mind your own god damned business. We might also be overcompensating for the fact that we recorded an entire 16 beer showdown that we got so mixed up on which beer number we were on that it ended up incomprehensible. So we did it again. We did it bigger. We did it better. We did it stronger. 16 beers? Not for our fans. We did 24 god damned beers. In a row. And we ranked them. Not in a row. Appropriately for their deliciousness. Or, skunkiness. 

The Pilsner ShowdownThe Pilsner Showdown

On that note, we need to preface this by saying that some of the beers in our showdown obviously suffered from age and packaging woes. While we wish this wasn’t the case, it’s also the realistic experience of buying these beers on the shelf. So get your shit together, breweries with green bottles. Especially if you don’t put dates on your bottles. 

#24 Warsteiner – Warsteiner Premium Verum / German Pilsener
Average Score: 36.00

Warsteiner - Warsteiner Premium Verum / German PilsenerWarsteiner – Warsteiner Premium Verum / German Pilsener

Of all the German beers in the mix, Warsteiner fared the worst. In fact, it fared the worst of the whole showdown. The nose immediately put everyone off. Gym sock, fusel….none of the aroma notes have won anyone over. Drinking it, we were equally nonplussed. Flavor notes included such illustrious comments as “potting soil”. Being the off flavor patient zero for a funk we’d never experienced before led to incredibly low marks, putting Warsteiner Pils in last place. 

#23 Plzeňský Prazdroj – Pilsner Urquell
Average Score: 48.00

Plzeňský Prazdroj - Pilsner UrquellPlzeňský Prazdroj – Pilsner Urquell

A reference pilsner entered the showdown, and thankfully wasn’t in a green bottle. We thought it looked great, like a bar of GOLD!! Smelling it, we caught diacytel. While that’s to style when it’s “restrained” we thought it was not restrained at all and it really put us off the beer. Matt successfully nailed it and called the beer, but the off flavors put the whole group off enough to rank it one of the lowest in the showdown. 

#22 Trumer – Trumer Pils
Average Score: 54.50

Trumer - Trumer PilsTrumer – Trumer Pils

Trumer Pils is a heavy hitter in CA, but failed to impress us with a chill haze and a lack of head retention. At the aroma section of the review, Jason was taken aback by the skunky aroma. As a group we’ve had this beer and enjoyed it before (including in Pilsner show 1.0) but ultimately the skunky conditions did it in. This beer was probably a victim of being in a green bottle. 

#21 North Coast Brewing Company – Scrimshaw Pilsner
Average Score: 60.00

North Coast Brewing Company - Scrimshaw PilsnerNorth Coast Brewing Company – Scrimshaw Pilsner

An old school stalwart of the California craft beer scene enters the fray. This one had great clarity, but not great head retention. The color was dark – we thought it might be one of the Czech beers because it was so dark. The nose let out notes of dog, and leather – not what we wanted out of a pilsner. Tasting it, we got ATHP, mousiness, and John thought it wasn’t even a pilsner at all. While we thought the beer was OK, the off flavors and lack of pilsner characteristics led us to call it a non-buy and put it near the bottom of the field. 

#20 Speakeasy Ales & Lagers – Pop Gun Pilsner
Average Score: 61.75

Speakeasy Ales & Lagers - Pop Gun PilsnerSpeakeasy Ales & Lagers – Pop Gun Pilsner

A newcomer to the pils scene, Speakeasy out of San Francisco has recently started canning their Pop Gun Pils. The beer had a nice head, but the appearance was best described as “dishwater”. The nose divided the group – Jason got soap, Greg got diacytel, and John thought it smelled pretty good! But drinking it we all caught on off flavor we didn’t like. The mouthfeel was off, the bitterness was muted, the malt character was too high and overall we didn’t find it to be a great pils. 

#19 Pivovary Staropramen – Staropramen Premium / Ležák
Average Score: 62.00

Pivovary Staropramen - Staropramen PremiumPivovary Staropramen – Staropramen Premium

In a showdown of similar beers, Staropramen makes itself known. It’s noticably darker and maltier than the rest, bordering on a Vienna Lager or a Marzen. While we mostly liked the beer, it’s breaking from the pilsner style combined with being sort of ho hum and not hitting the main pilsner notes, led us to give it lower marks than some of the competition in this style showdown. 

#18 Budějovický Budvar – Budweiser Budvar B:ORIGINAL / Czechvar B:ORIGINAL
Average Score: 63.25

Budějovický Budvar - Budweiser Budvar B:ORIGINAL / Czechvar B:ORIGINALBudějovický Budvar – Budweiser Budvar B:ORIGINAL / Czechvar B:ORIGINAL

The famous Czechvar, which is the “real” Budweiser that you can only get in the Czech Republic! This one impressed with clarity, but had a thin head that didn’t linger. The nose could only described as “That sweet skunky stuff” which cost the beer points. Drinking it, it had remnants of a good beer but faltered under massive levels of skunk. Another victim of the green bottle curse. 

#17 König Brauerei – König Pilsener
Average Score: 64.25

König Brauerei - König PilsenerKönig Brauerei – König Pilsener

Narrowly edging out the Czechvar is König Pilsner. König impressed with clarity, but the head and retention left a bit to be desired. There was something funky in the nose – Jason says skunk and Matt says DMS, but we all agree it’s not ideal. It drank well, but the off aroma and some wonkiness in the flavor department led it to low marks overall. 

#16 Bitburger Braugruppe – Bitburger Premium Pils / Premium Beer
Average Score: 69.00

Bitburger Braugruppe - Bitburger Premium Pils / Premium BeerBitburger Braugruppe – Bitburger Premium Pils / Premium Beer

In the Pils Showdown 1.0, Bitburger actually beat the whole field of 16. This pour wowed the group with it’s chandelier-like clarity, but the nose threw Greg off, who caught notes of DMS and old milk. Jason thought it was clean but a bit bland. John caught a weird taste to it. We all declared this Bitburger can as middle of the road or worse, and it finished a bit below the middle of the field. 

#15 Krombacher Gruppe – Krombacher Pils
Average Score: 73.75

Krombacher Gruppe - Krombacher PilsKrombacher Gruppe – Krombacher Pils

Krombacher wowed with it’s clarity. The nose, however gave off seaweed and umami notes. When we drank it, it didn’t really wow us in any way at all. We thought it lacked some of the hop presence that makes a true pilsner, and even compared it more towards and American light lager than the normal pilsner profile we expect. While this beer was clean overall, we didn’t find enough of the pilsner characteristics we were expecting to propel it to greatness. 

#14 Avery Brewing Co. – Joe’s Premium American Pilsner
Average Score: 74.50

Avery Brewing Co. - Joe’s Premium American PilsnerAvery Brewing Co. – Joe’s Premium American Pilsner

A whopping .75 points ahead of Krombacher is Avery with Joe’s Pils. While certainly our most Mafia looking can, this beer immediately threw everyone off with how many chunky floaties where flowing around in it. We spent a while trying to figure out why this beer looked more like a lava lamp than a pils. We thought it was citrusy, and got a big American hop presence out of it. We enjoyed it, but thought it was more along the lines of a pale ale or a session lager. Matt thought it had a pilsnery malt profile, but overall the group thought it was out of style pretty significantly and it hurt it in the overall rankings. 

#13 Lagunitas Brewing Company – Pils
Average Score: 75.50

Lagunitas Brewing Company - PilsLagunitas Brewing Company – Pils

An oft overlooked shelf beer in CA, this one came out and impressed the gang with it’s clarity and the memory foam mesa hanging out on the top. The aroma left a bit for us to be desired, but had a good solid hop presence on the back that salvaged the lack of aroma. All around a good beer but it lost points for being too bitter. 

#12 Saint Archer Brewing Company – Hoppy Pilsner
Average Score: 79.25

Saint Archer Brewing Company - Hoppy PilsnerSaint Archer Brewing Company – Hoppy Pilsner

Jumping ahead of Lagunitas by several points, Saint Archer’s Hoppy Pilsner (formerly Girl Skateboard Pilsner). This one came out so cloudy that we were wiping the glass to make sure it wasn’t just fogged up. The aroma had different things to everyone….citrus to Jason and Matt, sulfery farts to Greg. Jason didn’t like the lemony flavor, but John enjoyed the biscuity cracker malt character. We liked it overall, but it lost points on appearance and ended squarely middle of the pack. 

TIED FOR #10 Crux Fermentation Project – Crux Pilz
Average Score: 83.25

Crux Fermentation Project - Crux PilzCrux Fermentation Project – Crux Pilz

Crux obviously didn’t place a high priority on the appearance of the beer, invoking thoughts of an unfiltered Kellerbeir moreso than a pils. We caught a big American hop presence out of it, but we liked it overall. Greg thought it had a pilsner backbone, but John thought it was very bitter. While we really liked this beer, we thought about how you’d feel if you got that ordering a pilsner and it went down a few pegs. Despite these handicaps, Crux finished in the top half of the field and tied with…

TIED FOR #10 Oskar Blues Brewery – Mama’s Little Yella Pils
Average Score: 83.25

Oskar Blues Brewery - Mama's Little Yella PilsOskar Blues Brewery – Mama’s Little Yella Pils

Out of the gate, Matt said this beer looked like shit. And he’ll fight anyone who disagrees. The group was split on the nose, some of us finding it muted and some of us liking the nose a lot. On drinking it, we all thought it was a solid example. We liked it overall (especially John) but losing points for appearance and aroma ended up placing Oskar Blues lower than it could have been. 

#9 Sierra Nevada Brewing Co. – Nooner Pilsner
Average Score: 83.75

Sierra Nevada Brewing Co. - Nooner PilsnerSierra Nevada Brewing Co. – Nooner Pilsner

Edging out the #10 tie buy just half a point, the seasonal standby from one of America’s most respected craft breweries. Sierra Nevada has suffered a bit in our past showdowns. Nooner didn’t come in as a world beater, but in this strong field of pilsners, Nooner made a very respectable showing for itself at #9. The nose wasn’t huge, but the flavor had a very clean, grassy note that got solid marks from the group. 

#8 Arrogant Brewing (Stone Brewing Co.) – Who You Callin’ Wussie
Average Score: 84.50

Arrogant Brewing (Stone Brewing Co.) - Who You Callin' WussieArrogant Brewing (Stone Brewing Co.) – Who You Callin’ Wussie

Not surprisingly for Stone, the beer impressed for clarity and had nice head retention. Also not surprisingly for Stone, we immediately caught a huge hop profile out of this beer. Overall the group liked this beer quite a bit, and dinged it for being way overhopped for the style. Matt even went farther to say that it was way out of style, and John considered going full Barry Bonds and asterisking it. But our love of this beer propelled it up to #8 despite being handicapped by all of our minuses for being out of style. Leave it to Stone to make a beer so aggressively out of style that it places in the top 1/3 on pure bravado. 

#7 Left Hand Brewing Company – Polestar Pilsner
Average Score: 86.00

Left Hand Brewing Company - Polestar PilsnerLeft Hand Brewing Company – Polestar Pilsner

This beer had a good head and solid lacing in the glass. The nose was clean, with small hints of herbs and mint. Jason thought this was a clear LiterDrinken beer. Greg and John rated it the highest, with Nagel wishing the hops were dialed in a bit more. Overall, the 4B crew thought this was a very solid pils and it scored well enough to place it at lucky number 7 and a full point and a half ahead of Stone’s egregiously out of style example. 

#6 Pizza Port Brewing Co. – Pick Six Pilsner
Average Score: 86.25

Pizza Port Brewing Co. - Pick Six PilsnerPizza Port Brewing Co. – Pick Six Pilsner

Pizza Port makes its first appearance in a 4B showdown. The beer had a nice fluffy head but wasn’t as clear as some of the other more traditional examples. The nose read as fruity and tropical. The group agreed that this one was over the top on American hops, breaking from the mold of what you’d expect on a traditional pilsner. Hophead Jason thought it was a solid example despite (or because of) it’s overuse of American hops and the group in general liked it well enough to propel it near the top of the field and just .25 points higher than the strong showing from Left Hand. 

#5 Coronado Brewing Company – Seacoast Pilsner
Average Score: 87.00

Coronado Brewing Company - Seacoast PilsnerCoronado Brewing Company – Seacoast Pilsner

This was a bit of a wild card in our showdown, suggested by the beer store and thrown in to even the numbers out. Despite this inauspicious beginning, the beer ended up faring very well in this crowded field. The appearance failed to impress – it wasn’t nearly as clear as the other beers, and didn’t have much of a head at all. On the flavor side, this beer finished clean and brought smiles to the faces of all of the gang. It lost points for looks but got really high marks from everyone except Greg in the flavor department. Greg thought it was soft, and safe. Despite his reservations, Coronado jets into the top 5 with a solid pilsner, even if it’s only .75 points ahead of Pizza Port. 

#4 Firestone Walker Brewing Company – Pivo Pils
Average Score: 90.50

Firestone Walker Brewing Company - Pivo PilsFirestone Walker Brewing Company – Pivo Pils

Firestone is a time tested heavy hitter (and often winner) in 4B showdowns. Going in, we all expected Pivo to perform well and it did not disappoint. This beer had all of the visuals we wanted in a pils, and we immediately noticed the big American hop character. Jason thought that it managed to take the American hop flavor but still maintan the essence of a pilsner, while Matt thought it was bordering on an IPL. Ultimately, the beer got high marks, suffering only for not being quite traditional but still wowing all of the 4Bs enough to get a fourth place finish. 

#3 Victory Brewing Company – Prima Pils
Average Score: 93.25

Victory Brewing Company - Prima PilsVictory Brewing Company – Prima Pils

Prima Pils was a looker, and despite having had a lot of beer before, we all showed how thirsty we were when we admired this beauty of a pils. Jason’s Darth Vader smells aside, the group thought this beer was exactly where we wanted a pils to be. The words “reference pils” were thrown around liberally. Greg thought it lacked mouthfeel a bit, but overall Prima finished incredibly strong in the field. This beer is often mentioned as a reference for the style (including the BJCP) and it proved it’s providence here with a very high mark. 

#2 Sudwerk Brewing Co. – Northern Pilsner
Average Score: 96.25

Sudwerk Brewing Co. - Northern PilsnerSudwerk Brewing Co. – Northern Pilsner

The last beer we tasted on a long day was certainly not the least. Sudwerk came out with brilliant clarity, and a nice half finger of head retention. On the nose we caught herbal notes and a bit of oyster cracker maltiness. Jason was impressed by how clean and not aggressive the beer was. But most importantly, we all thought it was really damn good. Greg thought it was a little bit too bitter being the only thing keeping it from perfect in his mind. The tiny reservation from Greg perhaps costing it that all important half point, Sudwerk still catapulted to #2 in our field. 

#1 Bayerische Staatsbrauerei Weihenstephan – Weihenstephaner Pils
Average Score: 96.75

Bayerische Staatsbrauerei Weihenstephan - Weihenstephaner PilsBayerische Staatsbrauerei Weihenstephan – Weihenstephaner Pils

Edging out the #2 beer by only half a point, the world’s oldest brewery comes in with their example of one of the world’s most popular styles. While the head on the beer was pretty mild, this wowed with it’s glowing clarity. The nose also impressed, biscuity, herbal, minty, eucalyptus…and the flavor followed exactly where the nose was leading us. It tasted exactly what we’d expect a pilsner to taste like, and hit all of the right notes expertly. That’s what almost a millenia of experience can do for a brewery! Breaking far ahead of the field of other European pilsners, Weihenstephaner wowed the group (including a perfect 100 from Greg) for the #1 spot! 

The Rankings and ScoresThe Rankings and Scores

So many breweries are making pilsner that this showdown can in no way be considered a definitive list, nor is it an end all, be all ranking. We could have a pilsner showdown once a month for a year and still not even scratch the surface of all the available pilsner out there.

We encourage you to try this with a group of your friends and some pilsner that’s local to you! We say this after every showdown, but it really is fun, and it’s a great way to learn about a specific style of beer.

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Beers from this week’s episode:
Lagunitas Brewing Company – Pils
Trumer – Trumer Pils
König Brauerei – König Pilsener
Pivovary Staropramen – Staropramen Premium / Ležák
Firestone Walker Brewing Company – Pivo Pils
Bitburger Braugruppe – Bitburger Premium Pils / Premium Beer
Sierra Nevada Brewing Co. – Nooner Pilsner
Warsteiner – Warsteiner Premium Verum / German Pilsener
Speakeasy Ales & Lagers – Pop Gun Pilsner
Left Hand Brewing Company – Polestar Pilsner
Budějovický Budvar – Budweiser Budvar B:ORIGINAL / Czechvar B:ORIGINAL
Pizza Port Brewing Co. – Pick Six Pilsner
Coronado Brewing Company – Seacoast Pilsner
Oskar Blues Brewery – Mama’s Little Yella Pils
Saint Archer Brewing Company – Hoppy Pilsner
Victory Brewing Company – Prima Pils
Arrogant Brewing – Who You Callin’ Wussie
Krombacher Gruppe – Krombacher Pils
Crux Fermentation Project – Crux Pilz
Bayerische Staatsbrauerei Weihenstephan – Weihenstephaner Pils
Avery Brewing Co. – Joe’s Premium American Pilsner
North Coast Brewing Company – Scrimshaw Pilsner
Plzeňský Prazdroj – Pilsner Urquell
Sudwerk Brewing Co. – Northern Pilsner

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[S3/E31] Keeping Up with Tasting Nitch

Season 3, Episode 31 – This week, we’re hanging out with Nichole Richardson, aka Tasting Nitch, all the way from France!

This week on the show, we’re going to Paris, France (via Google Hangouts, of course) to drink some beer with fellow YouTuber and blogger, Nichole Richardson, or as she’s more widely known, Tasting Nitch.

Nichole Richardson, aka Tasting NitchNichole Richardson, aka Tasting Nitch

Today’s episode really isn’t about the beer more than about Nichole and the beer scene in Europe and France, as well as beer trends in the United States. We also talk about beer reviewers on YouTube, beer blogs, and podcasts.

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Nichole has been on YouTube for quite a while. She makes videos about beer news, beer reviews, drinking morning beer and commentary on beer trends and such. We highly recommend checking her YouTube channel out. You can also check out the video of the unedited Hangout with Nitch, if that’s something you would like to watch.

Big thanks to Nichole for hanging out with us. Definitely keep a look out for her on future episodes of Four Brewers. 

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Beers from this week’s episode:
Brasseries Kronenbourg – 1664
Brasseries Kronenbourg – 1664 Blanc
Brasserie Saint Sylvestre – Gavroche
Bayerische Staatsbrauerei Weihenstephan – Weihenstephaner 1516

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[S3/E30] The Lost Abbey with Tomme Arthur

Season 3, Episode 30 – This week, we’re discussing hoppy brew, Saison, and brewery collaborations with Tomme Arthur of The Lost Abbey / Port Brewing.

The Lost Abbey is probably one of the best Belgian-style breweries in the world, creating some of the best saison, wild ale, and barrel-aged beer that money can buy. Today on the show, we’re joined by The Lost Abbey’s (also, Port Brewing Company and The Hop Concept) Head of Brewery Operations, Tomme Arthur. The beers on the show this week represent some of the best qualities of the craft beer movement, from the two collaboration beers that The Lost Abbey brewed with Wicked Weed Brewing and Brasserie Dupont, to the experimental fresh and hoppy Mosaic & Eureka IPA from The Hop Concept. 

This Week's BeersThis Week’s Beers

The Lost Abbey, Port Brewing Company, and The Hop Concept beers all come from the brewhouse within The Lost Abbey. It can be a bit confusing when referring to three different breweries that are technically located under the same roof, but there’s a reason why it’s done this way, which Tomme gets into during the show. The beers that come from these three brands allow the brewery to experiment in different ways without confusing or overloading the consumer. Wouldn’t it be weird if The Lost Abbey made a dank-bomb IPA? Yes, it would be. You can’t really find a bad beer from any of these three brands. Their diversity exemplifies the knowledge and creativity of everyone involved with producing their beer.

Four Brewers with Tomme ArthurFour Brewers with Tomme Arthur

Recording an episode at Port / Lost Abbey / THC was one of the raddest things we’ve ever been able to do as a show. Much thanks to Tomme and the team for putting this show together!

More photos from our visit to Port Brewing / The Lost Abbey can be seen here.

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Beers from this week’s episode:
The Hop Concept – Mosaic & Eureka
The Lost Abbey – Brett Devo
The Lost Abbey / Wicked Weed Brewing – Ad Idem
The Lost Abbey – Carnivale
The Lost Abbey / Brasserie Dupont – Deux Amis

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[S3/E29] Brunching at Mikkeller Brewing, San Diego

Season 3, Episode 29 – This week on the show, we’re hanging out at Mikkeller Brewing Company in San Diego, California with Head Brewer Bill Batten and Barrel whisperer Daniel Cady.

World renowned gypsy brewer, Mikkel Borg Bjergsø, recently opened a new brewery right here in the United States. Mikkeller is probably one of the best-known gypsy breweries out there, brewing stellar barrel-aged stouts, wild ales, IPA, and more. Opening a permanent brewery in SoCal is pretty huge, not only for Mikeller Brewing Company, but also for beer geeks in the United States. 

Mikkeller Brewing Company, San DiegoMikkeller Brewing Company, San Diego

Opening a brewery in California is no easy task, which is why Mikkel decided to join forces with San Diego’s AleSmith Brewing Company. In fact, Mikkeller Brewing Company is actually in AleSmith’s former brewery, and they even retained AleSmith’s former Head Brewer, Bill Batten. (AleSmith recently opened a brand new brewery minutes from Mikkeller Brewing, so you should check that out, too).

Greg, Jason and Matt with Bill Batten and Daniel Cady (l to r).Greg, Jason and Matt with Bill Batten and Daniel Cady (l to r).

Bill and Daniel sat down with us to talk about the origins of Mikkeller Brewing San Diego and shared some of the freshest Mikkeller beer we’ve every had, brewed right here in California. 

Needless to say, but expect exciting things from Mikkeller Brewing in San Diego. The beers we had on the show were quite delicious, and the brewery has been open for only three months as of the recording of this podcast. We’re pretty excited for Mikkeller Brewing Company San Diego, and you should be, too. 

More photos from our visit to Mikkeller Brewing Company, San Diego can be seen here.

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Beers from this week’s episode:
Mikkeller Brewing San Diego – Beer Geek Breakfast
Mikkeller Brewing San Diego – California Dream
Mikkeller Brewing San Diego – Berliner Weisse
Mikkeller Brewing San Diego – Beer Geek Brunch With Single Coffee
Mikkeller Brewing San Diego – Amøbe

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[S3/E28] Bruery Terreux

Season 3, Episode 28 – This week, beers from Bruery Terreux.

This week on the show, we’re drinking eight beers from Bruery Terreux in celebration of The Bruery opening a second tasting room in Anaheim, California on July 8, 2016!

Beer from Bruery TerreuxBeer from Bruery Terreux

For those not in the know, Bruery Terreux is what The Bruery is branding their sour, funky, and wild line of beers. The beers are all brewed at The Bruery’s brewery, but the wort that is destined to become a Terreux beer is shipped over to the Terreux facility where it’s fermented, inoculated, barreled, etc. This keeps bacteria and bugs away from The Bruery’s “clean” (non-wild, Saccharomyces fermented) beers. Greg wrote an article about the opening of Terreux: Check it out!

The beers on the show this week represent a fairly wide range of what Bruery Terreux is doing. While they’re not all hits, they represent what The Bruery and Bruery Terreux is all about: pushing the boundaries and running wild (pun intended) with creativity. 

BREW THE SHIT OUT OF IT.

Beers from this week’s episode:
Bruery Terreux – Prairie Rue
Bruery Terreux – Confession (2015)
Bruery Terreux – Tonnellerie Rue 
Bruery Terreux – Humulus Terreux
Bruery Terreux – Souren
Bruery Terreux – Oude Tart (2015)
The Bruery – Oude Tart (2012)
Bruery Terreux – Cinnamonk

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[S3/E27] 4B Makes a Fundamental Observation

Season 3, Episode 27 – This week, beers from AleSmith Brewing Company and Bottle Logic Brewing.

Happy Independence Day! This week, we’re keeping the blog post short and sweet. There are vegan hamburgers to be grilled and beers to be drank.

This week, we’re drinking some pretty hefty beers from FoundersAleSmith, and Bottle Logic

Before we get too deep into it, we’re gonna start with a trip inside the 4B Mailbag with some Founders Backwoods Bastard. Speaking of which, we’re asking for your beer haikus. Feeling creative? Send us yours at feedback@fourbrewers.com.

Founders, AleSmith, and Bottle Logic BrewingFounders, AleSmith, and Bottle Logic Brewing

Next up are three beers that really showcase what’s going on in the SoCal beer scene. AleSmith Brewing Company’s Private Stock Ale and Mexican Speedway Stout are first up. Private Stock Ale is an Old Ale that was made for aging. AleSmith even encourages you to do this. Why? Because, man, IS IT HOT! So much booze on this beer, it’s crazy! But, that’s by design. AleSmith knows what they’re doing and when they tell you to age this beer, you should. Buy a few bottles and open them over the course of five or six years. The booziness should mellow out over time, allowing the beer to really shine. Drink a bottle fresh as a baseline for comparison and then another in a year or two. Hell, buy a case and really geek out with cellaring…

AleSmith makes killer stout—probably the best in the world, according to certain folks. Speedway Stout is a classic coffee stout that lends itself well to barrel aging. This version, Mexican Speedway Stout, is a blend of fresh Speedway Stout and tequila barrel-aged Speedway Stout with cinnamon, Mexican coffee and Mexican Chocolate. The balanced of these particular ingredients in beer is critical, and AleSmith nails it—this beer is fantastic.

Bottle Logic Brewing - Fundamental ObservationBottle Logic Brewing – Fundamental Observation

We end the show with a beer that needs no introduction, Bottle Logic Brewing’s Fundamental Observation. This beer is the whale-iest of SoCal whales. It’s a fantastic blend of barrel aged stout that literally smells like alcohol infused brownies. While drinking this beer, we talk about beer geeks and beer culture in general and how the scene has changed over that last five years or so. Spoiler: John goes on a rant…

BREW THE SHIT OUT OF IT.

Beers from this week’s episode:
Founders Brewing Company – Backwoods Bastard
AleSmith Brewing Company – Private Stock Ale
AleSmith Brewing Company – Mexican Speedway Stout
Bottle Logic Brewing – Fundamental Observation (2016)

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[S3/E26] Fat Tires and Mimosas

Season 3, Episode 26 – This week, the Fat Tire & Friends “collabeeration riff pack” and Going In Blind with Nagel.

As you may remember, a few weeks ago we sampled the Sierra Nevada collaboration Beer Camp 12-pack. We were marginally dissatisfied with most of the beers. It’s not that the beers outright sucked (there were a couple wins), but they just weren’t noteworthy. This week, we decided to try another collaboration mixer. New Belgium’s take on their collaboration “riff pack” differed from Sierra Nevada’s Beer Camp in that every beer is a take (riff, if you will) on New Belgium’s classic Fat Tire Amber Ale. This should be interesting…

New Belgium Collabeeration Riff PackNew Belgium Collabeeration Riff Pack

Fat Tire is a well known beer. Its classic label, depicting red “retro” bicycle, can be spotted from a mile away (well, maybe not a mile…10 feet?). It’s safe to assume that even the most experienced beer geek among us has tasted Fat Tire at least once. Fat Tire is ubiquitous, but it also tends to get overlooked by beer geeks in search of something more, whatever that may be.

To celebrate their 25th anniversary, New Belgium called upon their closest beer industry buds to take the classic Fat Tire recipe and mix it up. Maybe change the yeast, add MOAR HOPS, or throw in some apple juice? RhinegeistFirestone WalkerAllagashAvery, and Hopworks all participated in the collaboration. Each beer in the Riff Pack is a unique take on Fat Tire.

Did the beers exceed our expectations? Did New Belgium play it safe or did they really try to brew outside the box and make an interesting group of beers? Listen and find out!

BREW THE SHIT OUT OF IT.

Beers from this week’s episode:
New Belgium Brewing Company – Fat Tire
New Belgium w/ Rhinegeist Brewery – Fat Pale Ale
New Belgium w/ Firestone Walker Brewing Company – Fat Hoppy Ale
New Belgium w/ Allagash Brewing Company – Fat Funk Ale
New Belgium w/ Avery Brewing Co. – Fat Wild Ale
New Belgium w/ Hopworks Urban Brewery – Fat Sour Apple Ale

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[S3/E25] L.A. Beer Week 2016

Season 3, Episode 25 – It’s L.A. Beer Week! Let’s drink some beer from Los Angeles breweries.

L.A. Beer Week is upon us! This yearly celebration of Los Angeles beer, bars, breweries, homebrewers, restaurants, eateries, food trucks, and beer drinkers has evolved into one of the best celebrations of beer culture in southern California. From Long Beach to Pomona to Gorman, the expansive and densely populated county of Los Angeles has become a destination for beer geeks far and wide. Today, we celebrate L.A. beer by drinking eight beers from L.A. breweries.

2016 LA Beer Week KickoffThe Crowd at the 2016 LA Beer Week Kickoff – #LABW8

The 2016 #LABW8 Kickoff Festival was Saturday, June 18, and it was pretty amazing. Not only were Los Angeles breweries pouring, but breweries from Orange County, the Inland Empire, San Diego County, and even the Bay area and beyond were participating in the action. There were so many awesome breweries, and they brought their A-game. Fundamental Observation from Bottle Logic Brewing was “secretly” being poured, Beachwood Blendery brought bottles from their Propagation series of wild and farmhouse inspired ales, while newer breweries like Mumford Brewing impressed folks with their hoppy and juicy IPA. The entertainment was spot on, the lines were short for the most part, and the event overall was very well organized. Props to the Los Angeles County Brewers Guild for organizing such an awesome event!

Los Angeles BreweriesLos Angeles Breweries

L.A. Beer Week is this week! So many events are happening all over southern California that you’d be hard pressed to not find something that’s happening in your neck of the woods. A full listing of everything that’s going down this week can be found at the L.A. Beer Week website, or by downloading the DoStuff app [iOS | Android] and searching for “LA Beer Week”.

We’ll see you around and cheers to Los Angeles beer!

BREW THE SHIT OUT OF IT, LOS ANGELES.

Beers from this week’s episode:
King Harbor Brewing Company – The Swirly
Phantom Carriage Brewery – Muis
Beachwood Blendery – Propagation No. 128
Highland Park Brewery – Help Yourself
Monkish Brewing Company – Days of Underoos
Three Weav3rs Brewing Company – Unity 2016
El Segundo Brewing Company – Hop Plunge
Smog City Brewing Company – Infinite Wishes (2016)

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Season 3, Episode 24 – This week, Jason brewed a Heady Topper clone, and The McNew’s brought us beer from Texas.

This week, we are joined by homies Jessica and Sean McNew who recently returned from a trip to Texas and brought back some brew for us to try. But first…

Can you believe it? Jason finally got back to homebrewing and came out swinging with a Heady Topper clone! We kick off the show with this juicy wonder, and Jason sure did deliver. He paid particular attention to his yeast health and fermentation temperatures, and it really paid off—his beer was great!

Lakewood BrewingLakewood Brewing

Next up are three beers from Lakewood Brewing Co. out of Garland, Texas. The Temptressis a really unique Imperial Milk Stout that comes in at around 9% ABV. It’s a great beer, so great that Lakewood also brewed a couple variations of it, Sin Mint Temptress and Raspberry Temptress. Again, like The Temptress, these beers are both interesting and delicious.

Jester King BreweryJester King Brewery

We end the show with two beers from one of our favorite Texas breweries, Jester King Brewery

Thanks to Sean and Jessica for the brews, cookies, hanging out…yeah. They rule.

BREW THE SHIT OUT OF IT.

Beers from this week’s episode:
Lakewood Brewing Company – The Temptress
Lakewood Brewing Company – Sin Mint Temptress
Lakewood Brewing Company – Raspberry Temptress
Jester King Brewery – Ol’ Oi!
Jester King Brewery – Funk Metal

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[S3/E23] Wet Hop American Beer Camp

Season 3, Episode 23 – This week, we follow suit with all of the other beer podcasts and try the six beers from the Sierra Nevada Beer Camp 12 (six?) pack.

This week, we’re going to beer camp! Not really, but we’re gonna imagine we are by drinking the six beers from this year’s Sierra Nevada Brewing Company Beer Camp collaboration variety pack. 

Sierra Nevada Beer Camp 2016Sierra Nevada Beer Camp 2016

Our very own Greg Nagel went to Sierra Nevada’s Beer Camp. For a while, it was an actual event that select homebrewers from all over the country participated in at Sierra Nevada’s brewery in Chico, California. Each team would concoct a recipe and brew it as a pilot batch. Following that and some recipe tweaks, the final recipes would then be brewed at scale by Sierra Nevada for the variety pack. 

This year, the Beer Camp variety pack is comprised of 12 beers, two bottles from six different regional brewery collaborations. The breweries involved are well known within their local markets, as well as with hardcore beer geeks. Expectations are always high when it comes to big brewery collaborations, and rightly so. 

Does the Beer Camp variety pack meet expectations? Listen and find out!

BREW THE SHIT OUT OF IT.

Beers from this week’s episode:
Sierra Nevada Brewing Co. – Sweet Sunny South
Sierra Nevada Brewing Co. – Pat-Rye-Ot
Sierra Nevada Brewing Co. – Moxee-Moron
Sierra Nevada Brewing Co. – West Latitude
Sierra Nevada Brewing Co. – Stout of the Union
Sierra Nevada Brewing Co. – Family Values

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